No More Planning or Building permits!!!

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Nigel Howarth wrote: 10 May 2024 08:59
tom.want wrote: 09 May 2024 10:39For example, at the moment I'd need a way to find out the owner of plots which are not advertised anywhere. This might be for actual plots I am interested in, as well as all neighbouring plots, to know my potential future neighbour landowners (often these are also empty plots).
When we were looking for land, we visited our local Community Council who put is in contact with a local family who were selling two building plots.
tom.want wrote: 09 May 2024 10:39I understand there is no public access to title deeds and you need a legitimate reason to access these according to Cyprus law. Can you provide a service like that for a fee?
No-one can do this unless they have an interest. See New title search procedures in Cyprus.

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Did you know that Andreas Symeou, a senior official at the Department of Lands and Surveys, was my lecturer on the property law when I did my Masters Degree in Neapolis??

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Pantheman wrote: 10 May 2024 10:48Did you know that Andreas Symeou, a senior official at the Department of Lands and Surveys, was my lecturer on the property law when I did my Masters Degree in Neapolis??

Small world a??
Yes! Andreas was instrumental in changing the Title search procedures - and also introducing the 'gifting' (or 'assignment') agreements that did away with developers charging extortionate contract cancellation fees for people who wanted to sell their property before its Title Deed was issues.

After he retired he held a Title Deed problems lecture at the Technopolis 20 Cultural Centre in Paphos, which I helped to promote. (His daughter had taken over the venue and it was also away of promoting it.)

Andreas was one of the good guys, but I haven't seen him for many years.

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Nigel Howarth wrote: 10 May 2024 12:39
Pantheman wrote: 10 May 2024 10:48Did you know that Andreas Symeou, a senior official at the Department of Lands and Surveys, was my lecturer on the property law when I did my Masters Degree in Neapolis??

Small world a??
Yes! Andreas was instrumental in changing the Title search procedures - and also introducing the 'gifting' (or 'assignment') agreements that did away with developers charging extortionate contract cancellation fees for people who wanted to sell their property before its Title Deed was issues.

After he retired he held a Title Deed problems lecture at the Technopolis 20 Cultural Centre in Paphos, which I helped to promote. (His daughter had taken over the venue and it was also away of promoting it.)

Andreas was one of the good guys, but I haven't seen him for many years.

Cheers,
Yes he has retired, but now occupies his time farming!!

He was also a member of the team at Crans Montana during the unification talks and was their advisor on the property issue.

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Re: No More Planning or Building permits!!!

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Nigel Howarth wrote: 10 May 2024 08:59 No-one can do this unless they have an interest. See New title search procedures in Cyprus.
Interesting, that's going to make the research phase a lot harder. Coming from a country where the land registry is open to anyone willing to pay a small fee for each inquiry, this will take some getting used to.

You examples covers the case of buying plots in a larger development. My case is a little different. I see an empty piece of land in DLS in the residential or tourist zone and am interested to buy it. I is not currently offered actively anywhere for sale and on-site visits don't provide any clues. Is this considere a legitimae interest?
What if I own a neighbouring property?
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tom.want wrote: 12 May 2024 12:42What if I own a neighbouring property?
Check out the link in my earlier reply. All you have to do is click on the underlined text.
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Nigel Howarth wrote: 12 May 2024 19:07 Check out the link in my earlier reply. All you have to do is click on the underlined text.
I did give that read, and step 1 (filling out the form) isn't an issue, but step 2 seems to be "Get the vendor to complete an ‘Authorisation Form‘".

This would work if all I wanted to do is to check the title deed if I already know who owns the land. I my use case I don't know the owner/vendor of a piece of land and would like to see the title/owner to contact that person to make him an offer.
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tom.want wrote: 12 May 2024 21:38I my use case I don't know the owner/vendor of a piece of land and would like to see the title/owner to contact that person to make him an offer.
You can do what we did as I mentioned earlier - visited our local Community Council who put is in contact with a local family who were selling two building plots.

And you can look out for 'For Sale' (ΠΩΛΕΙΤΑΙ) signs.
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Pantheman wrote: 30 Apr 2024 07:07
tom.want wrote: 29 Apr 2024 23:33 So if I want to build a single home one a single plot, I don't need a planning permit and the architect guarantees the building conforms to the regulations? Regardless of the size of the plot and the house?
This applies to official building plots or 'Oikopedo'. Not any piece of residential land.
I am following up on this because I can't find anywhere if there it a legal difference beween land which is officially zoned residential and "building plots / Oikopedo". I am copying the condition below listed in this post here: https://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers ... d=00169257
Important conditions for exemption from planning permission include:

1-the development must not interfere with road plans;
2-no more than two residential units are allowed per plot;
3-all zoning and regulatory requirements must be met;
4-height and floor limits must not be exceeded (which would otherwise require additional approvals);
5-the land cannot be located in a Special Character Area or under conservation orders;
6-access must not be from a national highway or primary road.
Is the above an exhaustive list or are there other conditions? Does anybody have a link to an official document?

Given the list above, it apears to me that I can go find a large piece of residential and, say 10.000 sqm and build a single home on it without planning permit, given the project satisfies the 6 conditions above.
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